Comments on: Weighing In on Mottau & Nielsen http://www.2manadvantage.com/2008/11/23/weighing-in-on-mottau-nielsen/ We're just a bunch of knuckleheads dishing the dirt about our favorite team. With rants and musings galore, get ready for in-your-face writing with a hint of sarcasm and a healthy dose of humor. Add two gallons Kool-Aid and enjoy! PS: We're totally awesome. Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:17:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: NEWARK SMELLS http://www.2manadvantage.com/2008/11/23/weighing-in-on-mottau-nielsen/comment-page-1/#comment-26079 NEWARK SMELLS Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:47:55 +0000 http://www.2manadvantage.com/?p=789#comment-26079 Dirty Mottau should be gone longer. A typical Devils ruling in their favor.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('26079','NEWARK SMELLS'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('26079','NEWARK SMELLS','Dirty Mottau should be gone longer. A typical Devils ruling in their favor.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Dirty Mottau should be gone longer. A typical Devils ruling in their favor.
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]]> By: rick http://www.2manadvantage.com/2008/11/23/weighing-in-on-mottau-nielsen/comment-page-1/#comment-25828 rick Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:27:05 +0000 http://www.2manadvantage.com/?p=789#comment-25828 This incident was really no different than an accidental high stick where the player gets cut. Mottau was not attempting to injure, but his carelass play caused an injury. And in reality, Nielsen's attempt to avoid the hit may well have been the cause of his leg injury more than the actual hit was. Mottau should have received a double minor, plus 5 for fighting. Hunter gets 5 for fighting, no additional roughing or misconduct. Suspensions for a hit to the head should be reserved for actual intentional hits to the head. The only redeeming part of this decision by the NHL is that it sends a message that a weenie hit gets 2 games, so don't lay a big one on somebody.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('25828','rick'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('25828','rick','This incident was really no different than an accidental high stick where the player gets cut. Mottau was not attempting to injure, but his carelass play caused an injury. And in reality, Nielsen\'s attempt to avoid the hit may well have been the cause of his leg injury more than the actual hit was. Mottau should have received a double minor, plus 5 for fighting. Hunter gets 5 for fighting, no additional roughing or misconduct. Suspensions for a hit to the head should be reserved for actual intentional hits to the head. The only redeeming part of this decision by the NHL is that it sends a message that a weenie hit gets 2 games, so don\'t lay a big one on somebody.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> This incident was really no different than an accidental high stick where the player gets cut. Mottau was not attempting to injure, but his carelass play caused an injury. And in reality, Nielsen’s attempt to avoid the hit may well have been the cause of his leg injury more than the actual hit was. Mottau should have received a double minor, plus 5 for fighting. Hunter gets 5 for fighting, no additional roughing or misconduct. Suspensions for a hit to the head should be reserved for actual intentional hits to the head. The only redeeming part of this decision by the NHL is that it sends a message that a weenie hit gets 2 games, so don’t lay a big one on somebody.
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]]> By: Hanspeter http://www.2manadvantage.com/2008/11/23/weighing-in-on-mottau-nielsen/comment-page-1/#comment-25799 Hanspeter Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:39:30 +0000 http://www.2manadvantage.com/?p=789#comment-25799 A 2-game suspension is not going to eliminate head shots (I agree that Mottau's elbow was accidental, but he did deserve a suspension: not for a dirty hit but for a careless hit; just like you need to know where your stick is at all times, you also need to know where your elbows are). A 10 game suspension will start getting people's attentions. Unfortunately, the league really screwed up 2 or 3 years back when they started handing out really long suspensions for half a season and then stopped after someone complained (and made it worse when they only suspended Pronger 1 game _twice_). Now they've lost credibility when they try to punish someone. I don't think removing the instigator penalty will eliminate head shots. If I throw an elbow and Trent Hunter then goes after me, even if I lose the fight, all I did was lose the fight. The elbow recipient is still down and out. If I have to sit w/out pay for for 12+% of the season, then it really affects me.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('25799','Hanspeter'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('25799','Hanspeter','A 2-game suspension is not going to eliminate head shots (I agree that Mottau\'s elbow was accidental, but he did deserve a suspension: not for a dirty hit but for a careless hit; just like you need to know where your stick is at all times, you also need to know where your elbows are). A 10 game suspension will start getting people\'s attentions.\r\n\r\nUnfortunately, the league really screwed up 2 or 3 years back when they started handing out really long suspensions for half a season and then stopped after someone complained (and made it worse when they only suspended Pronger 1 game _twice_). Now they\'ve lost credibility when they try to punish someone. I don\'t think removing the instigator penalty will eliminate head shots. If I throw an elbow and Trent Hunter then goes after me, even if I lose the fight, all I did was lose the fight. The elbow recipient is still down and out. If I have to sit w\/out pay for for 12+% of the season, then it really affects me.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> A 2-game suspension is not going to eliminate head shots (I agree that Mottau’s elbow was accidental, but he did deserve a suspension: not for a dirty hit but for a careless hit; just like you need to know where your stick is at all times, you also need to know where your elbows are). A 10 game suspension will start getting people’s attentions.

Unfortunately, the league really screwed up 2 or 3 years back when they started handing out really long suspensions for half a season and then stopped after someone complained (and made it worse when they only suspended Pronger 1 game _twice_). Now they’ve lost credibility when they try to punish someone. I don’t think removing the instigator penalty will eliminate head shots. If I throw an elbow and Trent Hunter then goes after me, even if I lose the fight, all I did was lose the fight. The elbow recipient is still down and out. If I have to sit w/out pay for for 12+% of the season, then it really affects me.

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]]> By: Sarah http://www.2manadvantage.com/2008/11/23/weighing-in-on-mottau-nielsen/comment-page-1/#comment-25791 Sarah Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:46:26 +0000 http://www.2manadvantage.com/?p=789#comment-25791 I agree. With pretty much everything you said. I also got a great visual of Colin Campbell sitting in his office with a Wheel of Fortune-esque wheel with suspension lengths instead of dollar amounts. I laughed, and then cried a little. I really hate that guy.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('25791','Sarah'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('25791','Sarah','I agree. With pretty much everything you said. \r\n\r\nI also got a great visual of Colin Campbell sitting in his office with a Wheel of Fortune-esque wheel with suspension lengths instead of dollar amounts. I laughed, and then cried a little. I really hate that guy.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I agree. With pretty much everything you said.

I also got a great visual of Colin Campbell sitting in his office with a Wheel of Fortune-esque wheel with suspension lengths instead of dollar amounts. I laughed, and then cried a little. I really hate that guy.

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